KIPCHOGE Marathon WR 2:01:39... tribute to YODA

From LetsRun tribute thread to this astonishing run by the greatest runner in the world...

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"We may be dumb mzungu but even we can recognize greatness when it explodes in front of us.

As you are with Evan WhiteSimba Jager, but even more so, I have utmost respect for YODA KIPCHOGE. Here's why.

Yoda is truly astonishing. His focus, Zen discipline, goal-orientation and work ethic know no bounds. His monastic training camp lifestyle stands at stark odds with that of the partiers who have also achieved success in the past, for instance the sad case of Wanjiru. His self-confidence, respect, and lack of aggrandizement are in contrast to many other worldclass athletes. He is humble, reflective and feels no need to diminish others. They live in a different universe and we all know it.

I cannot imagine any other competitor showing disrespect for KIPCHOGE no matter how badly he beats them in the races. That would be self-destructive and immature in the extreme.

He seems ethereal compared with regular mortals or even BOLT - for whom adulation and material success including juvenile obsession with fast cars seems de rigeur. BOLT was a champion athlete but a dilettante outside of his core sport. We shall see the results when Bolt's sporting career is truly over and he recognizes it himself...he'll go off the rails like so many before him.

I expect no such problem for KIPCHOGE.

Then there are the PEDs. Other athletes I half- (or even fully) expect to be busted. I don't believe KIPCHOGE is suspicious in spite of his historic performances, range, and durability. What's more, I pray this does not happen with KIPCHOGE.

We all need someone to look up to as exemplars of what is good in sport and KIPCHOGE is the JEDI of running. He outclasses every other runner in all respects. If ever we need to offer one example of a sportsman who embodies everything that is great about this sport, it must be KIPCHOGE. Revere his accomplishments and his stature.

BTW I don't even believe he's finished with the marathon WR.

The only mzungu who stood with a similar overall aura was ED WHITLOCK."

Serena Williams.. ROID RAGE?

This is not a new theory.  Some sites have speculated about signs of Williams using PED's before.
But this week on LR, we have this thread...

• • RE: Serena Williams meltdown 9/10/2018 2:34PM - in reply to Female athlete and mom

  • Female athlete and mom wrote: Let’s get real, if Djokovic had screamed at and berated the female umpire during yesterday’s final, who would we be calling sexist today? Not the umpire.
    

    
    SarchOOoo wrote:
    Yes, exactly.
    
    The first NFL player who holds play up by similarly questioning/impugning/insulting the female ref is going to get ejected pronto. Everyone knows it. I bet the coaches have been at pains to reinforce, say nothing to her, take the 50-yard penalty and loss of two downs, keep away from her, etc. Serena is not setting a good example with her conduct towards the male umpire when supposedly the most ignorant and sexist abusive NFL brutes show far more respect to their female ump.....
    
    

    Female athlete and mom wrote: Calling someone “honey” in the context you are using it is considered sexist. Fighting sexism with sexism. Clever

    
    SarchOOoo wrote:
    Not really, this dude is LRBF like most of them. You have the advantage of the larger female brain.
    
    

    Female athlete and mom wrote: But to address your comment, I read her tweet and completely disagree with it, beginning with the assertion that even though coaching during a match is prohibited by the rules, it shouldn’t be, thus umpires need to ignore it. Bad logic. You want the rule changed, then change it, don’t just ignore it.
    
    Secondly, there is standing up for oneself, and then there is crossing a line. Serena lost her cool, plain and simple, and at a very bad time. Demanding the umpire apologize to her in front everyone? A baseball player would be hitting the showers for that comment.
    
    Regarding BLK’s “passionate v hysterical” comments... Throughout her career, Serena has been called nothing but passionate for pumping her fist and yelling “come on” during her matches. It’s been one of her main attributes. In this instance, she lost her temper, but I don’t recall anyone referring to her conduct as “hysterical.” That’s just BJK adding to the hyperbole.

    
    SarchOOoo wrote: 
    BJK did come to like Bobby Riggs after all...
    
    I like Serena. I don't think she should just lie down and be submissive (except in my bed, of course) but there are boundaries and she oversteps them. Social media princesses have gotten used to fawning and achieving results by bullying - which is what Serena was doing here.
    
    The next problem, ROID RAGE. We all remember Benjy, well, there are parallels here... Serena's later-career event domination, her bulked/ripped physical form, occasional medical absences from comp, roid rage outbursts, etc, are all a familiar pattern to many of us here. I hope not, but the signs are notable. Because of our own sport's long history, we t&f viewers/competitors are among the most discerning and informed fans when it comes to identifying circusmtantial signs of PED use.
    
    Let's have a poll, Do you think Serena is using PEDs? Y/N, and see what happens....

How to bypass the LR censors! Let's start with LRBF...

So now you've been reading the Tiberian blog with mild - or strong - curiosity... great!  But you want to find more juicy stuff.  You even want to search the LR message board for key terms.  Like LRBF defined previously.  Buuut....you can't see the full monty when you search for "LRBF" on Google.  So here's how we do this...

Step 1.  Search GOOG using the terms "LRBF letsrun.."

You see... this.  Plenty of action!  The problem is, the censors (that is WeJo and his acolytes) have scrubbed the active LR board of Tiberian contributions.  Although I am an implacable opponent of censorship, I grudgingly admit, these guys generally are relentless.  They do this as soon as their basement-dwelling snowflake informers have contacted them. It's really too bad that they don't direct all their energy into 800m training, because then they'd be challenging Jim Ryun's all-time mark of ~1.39.

Anyway, this search is promising...because you can see remnant Tiberian text.  But how to get the juice?

Step 2.  Use GOOG's Cache function.  

Right-click on the small down arrow that appears to the right of the URL.  This activates GOOG's "Cached" function.  Select the "Cached" page...

Step 3.  Retrive the Cached page and soak in Tiberian wisdom

In this case, the cache shows this page as archived Jun 17, 2018 at 03:21:33 GMT as shown by the GOOG timestamp at the top.

Here's an example from the second search result shown in the Step 1 screencap.  The cache shows the original Tiberian contribution to the thread, which appeared on Page 2 at that time.... directly after Wowyou'reapussy's erudite contribution of "Is it hard going through life being a huge vag?" (That's classic LetsRun message board ID and repartee, BTW, if you're new to this).

This post includes the key term "LRBF" that GOOG indexed.

Here, Tiberius evaluates the quality of this particular trollism on LR.  I will have more to say about this entertaining practice in another post, but for the moment, let's stick with the archived post.  You can see that Tiberius wrote:

"0.1/10.  Only because you actually provoked a reaction with this utterly overblown garbage...."etc.

The "common LRBF nightmare" Tiberius refers to is the original post title of "today starts my gfs 2 week vacation with her ex-"...  If this topic wasn't such an obvious troll, it would be posted by an ultragamma archetype LRBF male.  The problem is, this troll thread is far too simplistic and obvious even for LRBF.  There's definitely an art to trolling and LR is a great place to appreciate the diversity of trolls from the utterly dumb - like above - to the sophisticated genre that generate many pages of serious follow-up.

Soo.... now that you see how it can be done, try it, and in this way you will now find hundreds of gems, all archived by the GOOG.  In spite of the efforts of the LR censors and board mods - and the hangers-on and lickspittle goblins of the censors, these guys who contribute to the censorious pablum - we can still find amusement.

For instance, Malmo gets a roasting for his supposed auxiliary role in this constant scrubbing of interesting debate from LR.

Many posters bleat about their threads being scrubbed and them being made unpersons.  I never waste time with this blubbering.  The censors do what they wish on their board, of course, and asking dumb "Why me?" questions is too pathetic to even be worthy of response.  Although there are plenty of dumb LRBF whining and pleading with the censors about their own threads being nuked, grovelling that they haven't broken the board charter or otherwise been offensive.. well, too bad!  That's censorship for you!  Capricious, arbitrary, and the enemy of informative debate!  LOL!  OTOH, these whinings are always amusing to find - because before they get nuked, these whiners all believe implicitly they are "on the side" of the mods and therefore, immune to deletion - but, far from it!  LOL!  Almost every day you'll see an active post of this type on LR.

But OTOH since all of this is publicly posted, viewers like Tiberius - and you - can find the good stuff using other means.

There are many fun key terms on LR which have been the subject of vigorous debate and who/which are often censored.  Try it for yourselves with these doozies:

• Kip Litton
• Mike Rossi
• Malmo
• jamin
• StuckWithMatchdotcom
• Domitian
• Canova
• Daniels
• Cerutty
• Susie Favor Hamilton (Fast Girl)
• Gatlin
• Flojo
• ventolin/calculo
• Ryun ~1.39
• So.. you want to bring up the real man thing again...

What is a TiGerGiRL?

One LR poster writes: "What is a "TiGerGIRL" and why is it spelled this way?"

You must be new round here.  Or perhaps just not very observant.

Aaanyway.... TiGerGiRLs are luscious females.  They are intelligent, ambitious, educated, driven, attractive women - often 18 to 25 or so, but can be older too - who fuck like bitches, respect their families, and make great friends as well as standout community/corporate leaders.  They are tigerish in their power and enthusiasm especially (but not only) in the bedroom.  They are friendly, curious, open-minded and engaging.  And awesome.  And ultra-desirable.

It is spelled that way in deference to the modernity of these girls.  They are not their mother's daughters - except inasmuch as they have a taste for being mastered by Tiberius, because their mothers also want to be mastered by Tiberius.

Another LR poster asks: "What is the "usual Tiberian dialog"?"

Tiberius posts provocative ads on the internet.  Intelligent, hot and accomplished girls of the type above (TiGerGiRLs) and other sexy women respond to these provocations, because they delight in Tiberian mastery and perversion and because they can see and know immediately from the quality of the posts, that Tiberius is a genuine worldclass master and not a wannabe.

The process is described on LR by occasional quotes from the correspondence and of course the periodic Tiberian musings and philosophizings.

This is because the LRBF (LetsRunBottomFeeders) have no conception of the complexities involved. To them, the enactment of such wild debauchery might as well be happening on the moon.

There are parallels to Olympism.  Excellence in the field requires years of dedication, practice, experimentation with different strategies and objective evaluation of the results.  It needs a keen mind to cut through ideologies that hinder us all.

LRBF curiously acknowledge this in principle, applying their mental powers to understanding Lydiardism, Stotanism, John Kellogg, David Martin etc. for training plans and performance outcomes.  But they whine pitifully about their dateless status here, wilfully ignoring the parallels between the need to train smart, and hunt TiGerGiRLs smart.  In fact, TiGerGiRLs are demanding and want and need smarts in their mates... which rules out most of you LRBF....

Then, the inevitable question... "What do TiGerGiRLs look like?"

Muahaha!  What do you think?  In fairness it's not quite that obvious, because you are no doubt regressive enough to believe there must be a specific physical "type." Like Kate Moss!  But no.  They are beautiful, alluring, amazing specimens of womanhood.  All different.  They are from different ethnicities, of different statures, nationalities, faiths... 4-10 muslim scholargirls from reputable MidEast families or 6-2 curvy black athletes, strong, bold and delicious.... white midwestern college girls or young Asian finance professionals.... but the common theme is that they are smart, selfconfident, proud and alluring women and each of them knows how to be a woman for me, to yield to me, to share herself with her master for our ultimate mutual pleasure.

They are discerning and demanding, and therefore are far beyond the abilities of the regular LRBF to hunt and master.  This art requires exceptional emotional intelligence, experience, knowledge and empathy as well as self-confidence and sociability.  True dominance bears no relationship with recently-popularized and quite sophomoric FiftyShades fantasy. No, TiGerGiRLs are too smart to want the usual dumbshit pretense of romance, they don't want whiteknights or boy-drama which they rightly hate with a passion, nor do they want utter doofuses and disrespectful misogynist thugs like Mike Rossi, infamous on LR... no, they need a man who is their equal.  A considerate yet experienced dominant.  They do not offer their prized submission to any lesser male, but to those who are given the keys, truly, the kingdom of paradise awaits!  Most of you reading this don't make the grade....  now let's be specific, "pics or it didn't happen" as the LRBF say...at the same time, my TiGerGiRLs remain anonymous.

We are talking about her......

And her...

And her....

And her....

And her...

Then..."What happens when you meet your TiGerGiRLs?"

LLOOL!  What do you think?  We usually have some rp fun, prof/student. daddy/daughter, she plays the young hooker or something along those lines, then I take her to my room and master her in the ways that make her throb and cum and plead for more, hard, expertly, and for a long time, as you have read from time to time on LR...

Like this....

And this...

Actually I really enjoy our pre-fuck convos and the socializing part but some modern girls want to get on with it and be ravished properly right away, so they can be a little impatient to have their panties pulled off.  I understand this, and always deliver what they need, but they sometimes indulge me by spending an hour or two in the bar in low-cut top showing real cleavage, short skirt, fishnets and heels.... to add that mutual frission of joy and excitement... mastering TiGerGiRLs is the most challenging and rewarding experience known to MANkind.  And as all of you LR readers have known for the past fifteen years, Tiberius is the Olympic champion in this fabulous sport.

Finally: "Are those tigergirl quotes you post on LR for real?"

Yes, all of them are verbatim.  Here are some classic choice TiGerGiRL quotes.

American college TiGerGiRL: "I must say that you are such an incredible lover. You blow my mind, do you know that??"  [Yes, I do my dear. You're welcome :) ]

Asian TiGerGiRL: "I want to feel you and taste you...I need to feel your arms around me, pulling me close to you the way you did that night we were together. Nothing else will suffice...Mmmmm, I can't wait!!" [How fun!  Yes, let's do it like that again, love the way you met me at the bar in that ultraslutty outfit, make those LRBF stare and pop!"]

Black postcollege TiGerGiRL: "I am willing to learn more, and can't wait until you come back around again. That is truly the best sex I've ever had!" [Thank you my dear, I'll be back soon enough.  Be ready!]

Indian scholar TG: "I don't think you're someone I'm going to be able to fuck for short amounts of time...I'm going to need a lot of you. If you're able to get away can I pleaseeee see you tomorrow?"  [Such a polite TG, and she makes such a reasonable request...certainly, my dear!]

Famous black TG: "Be sure to tell your other ladyfriends how the East Coast Black author couldn't get enough of your expert touch and attention and rode you like a true white stallion! They will eat that up!!!!!!!!!!" [LOL!  How fun!  Sure they'll know and so will those horny LRBF!]

Etc. When you have received and heard hundreds of these quotations, they become more valuable than the Library of Alexandria.  There's more than five hundred of these great quotations in the Tiberian archive already.  I can't really choose a fave.

Well, now you see more clearly how Tiberius provides both entertainment and public service here and on LR - as is well known by everyone (except you, the LRBF who asked this question..).

To the LRBF: what you can't see or understand is how to actually accomplish this yourselves, but if you pay attention to Tiberian wisdom as it appears in small chunks on LR, from time to time, you may learn a little more, grasshoppers.

To the browsing TiGerGiRLs: you understand exactly what I mean and you're smiling or even chuckling now.  Soo...write me, I am always ready for you, lol!

LRBF exegesis. A Novella

Plotline: average hs joe, normal looking, average intelligence, usual family background. Mr. Average in small-town midwest. A chance viewing of "Endurance" lights his fire.

He begins with a crappy 5:30 mile on his hs track. But he has found himself! In secret he begins his regime. Reading Coach Timmons horrifies and inspires our farm boy. Ryun - the white boy made good, the terror of the Kenyans! Long ago...but a model nonetheless. Over the last year of hs he trains harder and harder, getting thinner, more introverted. Now there's no time for friends. Girls find him increasingly repellent. But for the moment he doesn't care. He's on a MISSION. He follows Lydiardism and is recruited by a DII college.....

By sophomore year he has discovered Eddy Lee and broken 4:00. This is not enough for him. His lust for glory is fully aroused. Daily viewings of Without Limits inspire him.  He thinks he's training hard. 80mpw with his college team. Until he discovers the work of whom he instantly recognizes as his true zeitmeister, Percy Cerutty! He knows he's onto something: the name strikes fear into his teammates.

He begins a fully Stotan regime. Moves to ABQ, quits on college, work. Cloistered away, reading LR after each run, doing doubles, running only with his Kenyan roommate road-circuit buds seeking their fortune in ABQ. Now he eats ugali, drinks tea, occasionally beats the Kalenjin warriors in their workouts. He runs state, wins in 3:39. Starts posting queruously to LR, asking Renato Canova about the role and frequency of 1000m repeats. LR threads begin to appear...about him!

His self-doubt develops and intensifies in every sphere outside running. Rejections from cuties are a daily event. But this spiral of social and mental decay reinforces his commitment. The faster he runs, the less he wants or cares to deal with the demands of girls. He knows meaning is only to be found on the track, in the fires of competition. He welcomes his self-imposed exile and exclusion. It is pure, beautiful, simple.

Invites to Europe follow his state win. A 3:34 in Heusden gets him into Berlin. Now he runs 3:30. Wins GP meet! F%%%!! Makes BIG money. Still unhappy. To Monaco. Invincible. Now a 7:29, outkicks Choge and Alamirew. The LRBF erupt into a frenzy of love-loathing, worshiping his defeat of the black horde and accusing him of ongoing EPO and PED abuse. He doesn't care. He won! New NR! Kalenjin begin whsipering on the startline, O s^^^, here's the new mzungu!

Despite the euphoria, our hero can't get laid...even though he just bumped into Ivet Lalova warming up and she likes him. On LR he dismissed Tiberian wisdom and therfore cannot consummate her advance. But he still doesn't care.

Immaterial. This season is the greatest of his life. Next up, a 1k in Paris. He wins, again! 2:14. Awesome! The Kalenjin fear him, now they txt him asking for tactics and pace for the next Diamond League race, what will he run, and how? Their fear induces a perpetual hardon in our hero. He has arrived in the only way that matters! Next day, Brussels, he turns out a 12:57 5k with a last 1k in 2:22 that annihilates Bekele and Farah.

Our hero contemplates existential meaning of running and life. His bipolarism is well developed now. He cannot interact socially so his agent handles all requests. Shows up, continues flashes of brilliance. 1:43 for an 800, beats Lewandowski and Lomong. Makes WC team at two events, 1500 first... dominates heat, looks good in semi....but, in the final the wheels come off! No explanation!! Kiprop, Choge, pass him...aargh, even Riseley and Wheating!! After a 7th place finish in a race won in 3:41 with a 51 last lap, total despair engulfs our hero. He wallows on the track in front of 80,000 spectators. The live feed from EuroSport has died and the LRBF bay hysterically. Choge and Kiprop cannot understand how they beat him.

As the giant stadium empties and he faces his unfulfilled destiny alone, with nobody to blame but himself for his failure, the baying voices of LR colonize his mind. Trembling with fear and overcome with angst at the idea of logging on again and reading worse abuse than the classic Webb-crucifixions that he used to participate in, the futility explodes into his brain.

He commits suicide in his hotel room under his poster of Pre by drinking four pints of DMSO.

The hotel staff find him 12:30 later with his iPod endlessly playing the loop of Donald Sutherland's Without Limits eulogy.

The End.

(originally published August 2012, moved from previous page to this location for thematic coherence)

Benefits of precompetition sex for elite female athletes

A classic topic of debate among sportspeople is the effect of pre-competition sex on athletic performance.  In the primitive, prurient age, and still today on LR, this meant examining - or speculating about - the potential effects on male athletes.  These effects are not always considered beneficial.

The LRBF know this at least and will discuss it, although usually in very uninformed terms.  The girls, by contrast, are more advanced mentally, and they can and do imagine better possibilities...but of course they are "protected" or "contained" by prurient social forces - like their coaches/parents/LR mods, and even on occasions their boyfriends when these guys discover their adventurings.  They also feel they must hide their own experimentations, so it's hard to connect the dots.

For more than ten years, I have posted on LR (and occasionally elsewhere) a more advanced theory.  It is Tiberian indeed and the findings are based on research that is detailed below.  Anyway here's the abstract:

Elite female athletes can benefit from pre-competition sex, with a measurable performance increment of up to ~0.5% or even more, if a certain protocol is followed (timing/intensity).

I am a bold Tiberian master and as LR readers know well, I enjoy very much enjoy dominating smart, accomplished and open-minded college sportsgirls. My form of domination is cultured, respectful and is not in any way similar to the rather crude and immature FiftyShades fantasy that has become popular.  Anyway, I enjoy variety and although runnergirls tend not to be my style - no boobs and small butts as well as eating habits/complexes - I was curious about meeting an elite female college athlete.  So a long time ago I posted one of my usual provocative and salacious ads for a student, and received some responses including from an NCAA swimmergirl.  We began our private liaison in the usual way, meeting at the hotels or her roomies' place for our fun.  She was really a luscious specimen of young womanhood, tall, smart, sleek like an otter, strong - I love strong women! - alluring and sexually voracious.... if not so experienced. I took care of that problem for her soon enough....

Anyway I was surprised when my swimmergirl - later, an Olympian -  told me one day that she wanted to experiment with Tiberian sex prior to her competition.   She originally suggested this in the spirit of fun, even as a joke.  I complied, finding the whole thing with aqua-science-girl quite fascinating in its inversion of socio-sexual norms.  So OK, I participated with quite a lot more enthusiasm than that...LOL!

Anyway...we tried a range of different timings and activities, and each time we compared her performance with expectations based on statistical confidence interval analysis from a model based on her training log data and physiological indicators.  We used the statistical model that her coaching staff used, which as some elite college swimmers know can take the form of a nonlinear time-weighted multivariate model based on a number of physiological sampled parameters as well as microsampled training performances. The idea being, we could identify anomalously strong performances i.e. those that were better than statistically expected at that moment from the training/physio parameter model.  This performance model is calibrated for each individual athlete and for those who have been on their team for some time, and therefore whose models are built with extensive data, it's usually accurate.

Let me recap the results.  Over two years of experimentation, we learned that an all-night mastering 72-48hrs prior to her competition produced the best results (competition-wise, for her).  Over the 200y free this effect at its strongest was worth better than 2 seconds vs. model.  The physiological and psychophysical reasons for this are the hormone flush that increases endurance, pain tolerance and aerobic capacity as well as the systematic stimulant effects and sense of balance and well-being promoted by great sex.  Women's performance benefits from post-sex effects in stronger ways than that of males. 

She also tried this with regular bf, without such success.  We don't know exactly why, but we have a reasonable idea.  She confirmed the hormonal surge and physiological reactions were more intense with me.  Bear in mind, regular bf was a college dude and I was her secret dominant master, so the anticipation and activities were more intense than with regular bf.  I am also an expert in various advanced erotic arts such as extreme distension which induce stronger hormone surges than vanilla sex and we did it all.  We even discovered a specific and multi-orgasmic sequence of sexual acts spaced with sleep to which she responded most strongly so we tried to follow the pattern.  Of course all this had to happen outside of the orbit of coaches/bf and others, which could be challenging if the meet was far away...but I found reasons to travel and get a nearby hotel room.  Timing of our session was important: less than 48 hrs prior to competition was too soon, and after 96 hours, the effects curve was on its downside.

When she was happy with her competition result and returned to campus, she "rewarded" me by giving me carte blanche to use her in any kinky way I liked without concern for athletic performance improvement...now that was possibly even more fun, simply using her as my fun sextoy!

Some caveats. 

a. The arms, glutes and legs experience different physiological and biomechanical demands in the pool than on the track or cc course.  There's no way of knowing if what worked for elite swimmergirl would also deliver the same benefit for athletes in other sports, although it stands to reason that whatever component of general physiological improvement is delivered would help all athletic performance.

b. Specifically, I have not conducted this same detailed experiment with serious runnergirls.  I didn't seek them out, for one thing, but also, they a. have no cleavage and b. their libidos are unnaturally suppressed by their training.  It is a very weird thing when girls have no sex drive; this situation is only normal/acceptable to the LRBF.

One more thing - swimmergirl knew how to drink.  It enhanced the experience to get our buzz, then get to it.  She thought the practice next morning washed out the toxins and that this complemented the hormone flush of sex perfectly - she felt rough and drained and stretched and used during the next practice, then she would sleep very well the following night, then carb-load, then perform a taper workout the day before competition, now feeling very strong and ready.

She was f-u-u-u-n!  Another great thing about all this was that, eventually, one or two of her trusted team-mates found out about our experiments, and the results, and then they wanted to be mastered themselves.  Until that point they simply had not considered or even imagined that a good expert reaming by a master twice their age would have measurable performance benefits, quite apart from simply being ultimately satisfying in bed. They then discovered the same phenomenon as SwimmerGirl #1.  We had to keep all this quite private from their regular bfs.  We all had relationships, so no problem there!

The ridiculous, primitive and deeply-rooted hypocrisies about female sexuality prevent these discussions from happening in many places, including on LR.  My postings on this topic have routinely been censored by those who fear such discussions.  But this very topic - of female athletes engaging in pre-competition sex to improve performance - should not be in the least taboo.  This concept should be given due consideration and researched properly.  It shouldn't be surprising that Tiberius is a pioneer in this field of athletic endeavor!  But seriously, I have better data than all of you on this topic and we must begin somewhere.

This may also be an eternal debate for the male LRBF.... but in their case, they spend too much time worrying about it, because most of them can't get laid anyway. 

Female athletes: if you are genuinely curious, write me, and I'll provide more specifics on the protocol.   But no names or other identifying info for swimmergirls.  We keep our privacy.  If you're reading this, you know who you are and how much fun we had :)

"Hey Domitian!"

Here's what the LR readership writes me...as you can see, not everybody on LR is LRBF. In fact some of the college-age respondents are more thoughtful.  Unusually for male respondents, some are even intelligent and reflective... here are a sample:

From the boys..

"Hey domitian. I have been reading your posts on LetsRun for almost a year now and I have to say they have been a great source of entertainment. For a long time I was convinced that you were a troll (albeit a very good one!) and had way too much time on your hands to create the stories that you did. But after a while, I started to reconsider. Could someone continually fabricate the elaborate, detailed stories you posted (before the mods censored them) for as long as you have? I suppose....but I don't think a troll would put as much effort into trolling for as long as you have considering how often the mods step in.

Your posts have gotten me very curious these past few months and I must know, are you for real? I won't spill the beans if you aren't, your posts are quite funny, as well as enlightening. But if all the stories of seducing TiGerGiRLs are true, well, you're a master. I am still in training to become a master, but I've been pretty successful in getting girls' numbers just by being ultra confident and exuding a dominant demeanor. But the way you describe mastering so many different girls has me thinking I can be doing a lot better! Heres to hoping your online persona is real! A lot of questions I want to ask you...Cheers, [name deleted]"

and....

"I am surprised that more people on LetsRun haven't accepted the idea that you're legit. From your posts it is obvious you're quite intelligent. Far more so than the trolls that frequent that board.

[Yes I am for real, not a troll although my posts are counter-orthodoxical and often provocative]

I am 20 and starting my second year in college. I have the qualities you described, but I can understand why I couldn't do what you do at my age. It has become very apparent to me over the last 2 years or so that the universal thing girls and women seem to share is they desire to be dominated by a man, whether or not they admit it. And your posts and blog have made that even more clear!

[Yes many women feel this desire.  Some deny it, others embrace it, but even then they do not necessarily reveal it..to you... they need to be sure that they can trust you with this intimate reveal and UNLIKE FIFTYSHITS idiocy this doesn't randomly happen in working environments]

I'm not a very dominant person when I'm just acting "normal," if you know what I mean. I don't have a difficult time assuming a dominant personality if I need to, but it is sort of like a switch that I have to flick on in my mind. It is not quite authentic. But with you, it seems to be so. Which is one of the reasons someone my age could not do what you do. Women can sense the authenticity I suppose.

[It is not only to do with age.  It is also experience, of things, places, people and life. Women intuit men's capabilities and an authentic aura of true dominance is beyond the accomplishment of twenty-somethings and even many thirty-somethings. I used to think, unfair, and it is...but lust and love are NOT FAIR.  They are real.  They are primitive.  They are a torment for some.]

Assuming a dominant persona has gone a long way for me so far. Girls always respond well to it. I have a hard time imagining them asking me to fuck the shit out of them so soon and after so little effort on my part (like it appears they do with you!). Perhaps this is something I wouldn't be able to do at my age, or perhaps I could, but just not as regularly or as on such a large scale as you do. Regardless, as you said, I can still have fun.

[Nobody can do this like Tiberius.  I am a worldclass master in the art of refined domination, and my scenarios range from considerate daddydaughter rp for the curious and inexperienced - but legal - college girls, to hardcore simulated rape for the experienced mature married business ladies who have no time or inclination for fumblings or teachings]

I'm wondering how you do what you do, even if I couldn't do it right now. I know you've said before you post "ads" and that women write you. Are these literally ads you put up around campus? Or are these online at some place like craigslist? Or somewhere else? I'm very curious because it appears to work so well!

[Yes they work very well, because I am an absolute master.  It is not possible for those who are wannabes or inexperienced to write the kind of ads I do.  As you say, women recognize authenticity and the way I write and communicate my desires, while recognizing and celebrating theirs, and offering a comfortable and realistic pathway to realizing them...all of it matters.  This can't be faked]

It seems to me that one of the reasons why you're able to do what you do is because both parties go in knowing that it is simply to fulfill sexual desires. Maybe this puts the girls at ease and not worrying about leading to anything? A lot of guys get attached after sex and sometimes girls just want to be dominated by a man without any strings attached (cue Tiberius). Maybe that is something I could do, presenting that situation. Maybe it would depend on the girl. And if I could what the best way to do that would be, telling them in person after approaching them, or "ads." What do you think?

[Contrary to so-called popular wisdom, which in fact is simply ideology, girls are indeed concerned about boys getting attached after fun sex, they don't want boy-drama.  No!  They want to get fucked so hard and expertly that they quiver for days afterwards, throbbing and wet and glowing, with the inner satisfaction of having been truly mastered by a real man whom they respect.  Why not?  It's not the 19th century, so let's all be mature and realistic]

Also, I enjoy your blog. It is very fascinating and pretty damn crazy....some of the ads you have. And that girls respond to them.  That is enlightening. Also your LRBF novella was hilarious. I have to say though, I can somewhat relate to it. Not in that I am inept when it comes to girls, but rather the question of "balance". Trying to balance classes, training, and girls. And trying to do each of those things well....it is hard.

[Yes, many women respond to my ads and postings.  It is only enlightening to those who expect otherwise i.e. that women lack basic sexual desire, or the ability or capacity to engage in kinky sexual adventure with a man they have just met...all utter nonsense that is repressive and counterfactual.  But their desire doesn't mean they want to do it with YOU.  You will need to give them a very good reason to defy the hypocritical societal expectations of reticence, purity and Disnified princessly conduct that is so crap for all of us]

It is frustrating because I am surrounded by many hot young women! But it is what it is I suppose. That's why it's a sacrifice. Giving up something good for something better. I can always come back to that later in life whereas in running that is not exactly the case. Perhaps dominating women here and there, trying to make it happen without a whole lot of effort, would be ideal....if I could find a way to do that.

[It can be learned, or at least, your inner potential can be tapped.  With self-awareness, reflection and meditation, as well as much trial and error.  As Yoda said.]

Who knows. I don't mind so much. I love running and training. I guess I just want to have my cake and eat it too. But it is nice to know what is possible after reading your posts. Very interesting stuff.  Thanks for reading."

[Glad you enjoyed my LRBF novella!  Had several positive comments on that artistic masterpiece, lol!]

Well, at least these guys are realistic and have a lot more self-awareness and smarts than the average LRBF...

From the girls...

Meantime, as intelligent people know, the females are more direct.  They say things like...

"OK, I have to ask. Who are you? I'm not asking so I can report on LR. I read/post on there only when I get extremely bored between work, studying, and running. Sometimes it's fun to egg everyone on, especially because they take everything 110% seriously. I can't take you 110% seriously but your incessant posts have me wanting to put a face to your alias..."

and...

"Your posts make me laugh but tbh you are right about what you call the LRF.  I am in my early 20s at college and I'm an athlete and I see these guys every day.   They are boring whiners.  I am not a runnergirl but I compete in D1 field.  tiberius I sense you aren't into blushing virgins lol so let me assure you I am not!  I am curious about your knowledge and your "experiment" with the Olympic athlete girl.  I'm 5-9, dark hair, nice shape, strong coz I work out tons.  I can't share more until we exchange some info. I have a bf and discretion is important you understand what I mean.  Hit me back I'd love to talk..."

To which I responded: "Yes my dear, I certainly do understand!  We can have some *serious* fun... "

and, we did!  

I know you're all getting curious now, so I'll tell you more about the Olympic athlete and our "experiment" a little later.

Ventolin^3, deano and the DVTT(tm)

Ventolin, deano and the DVTT(tm)

Vento (formerly ventolin^3, now suspected to have re-branded himself as calculo after mod censorship) is a well-known personality on LR.  He enjoys performing what-if pseudostatistical analysis on world class track performances with the goal of computing a theoretical "equivalent" time that could be realized under perfect conditions. Because T&F performances are affected by many environmental and human factors, which are very rarely all perfectly aligned, this speculation provides an endless source of debate and amusement for T&F fans.

Vento's favorite adjustments take into account: lane position; track condition; windspeeds; temperature; humidity; the athlete's previous racing; biorhythms if known, and a host of other factors.

For example, here is a recent vento contribution showing adjustment based on: "slow, unenforced laps where you are flushing time down the drain, even after you flatten out the splits ( that's good for races with little variation ) - same principle as a 3'50 guy who ambles to bell in 3'10 isn't going to run close to 40s for last lap - slow, unenforced laps throw away lot of time, 1/2 woud be a good number to start with."

Any discussion of vento inevitably brings us to the subject of JIM RYUN.  Ryun is well known as one of the USA's greatest athletes, world record holder for 880y, 1500m and one mile in the 1960s, and Olympic silver medalist in the 1968 1500meters.

On LR, the ultimate track performances are eternally debated but vento has asserted for many years that Ryun is the GOAT.  Vento asserts Ryun's equivalent best times are ~44.0 (that is, 44.00 for the 400meters), ~1.39 (1:39.0 for the 800meters, which you will see is 1.91 seconds faster than David Rudisha's current WR), ~3.24 (3:24.0 for the 1500meters, which is 2.00 seconds faster than Hicham El Guerrouj's current WR) and ~3.41 for the mile (which is 2.13 seconds faster than El Guerrouj's current WR).  He reaches these conclusions after performing an in-depth analysis of each performance, the like of which is amazing to behold.  TiberiuSS calls these analyses "Deano-Ventolin True Times (tm)" or DVTT(tm), a term derived by concatenating ventolin's ID with that of deano - deano is another LR stalwart who is world-renowned as a Coe-fanboy-maniac and who enjoys performing his own pseudostatistical adjustments specifically on Coe's running performances.

These adjusted times or DVTT(tm) have become legendary on LR.  Vento's analysis accounts for the occasional cryptic reference to times of "~1.39," "~3.24" or "~3.41" in the threads when discussing ultimate performances.

Now, in addition to the actual insanity of these "conversions," vento displays a unique mode of argumentation in which he denounces with impatience and an unusual vocabulary those too dumb to follow his carefully-spelled out arguments.  Check it out.  His influence is undeniable.  For example, he is responsible for the popularization of the misspelled epithet "MORAN" (instead of the conventional "moron") on LR.  Take a look at how this gets used: just a few moments ago, Loki posted in criticism of Flagpole: "I always felt that you were a complete moran. I must say that validation feels great."  This is the classic LR-style dialog that we know and love, all thanks to ^vento!

Although I find vento's contributions amusing and fun, in fact sometimes they even provide pure comic relief, and I don't mind his mode, the censors object to his postings and often censor his work.  This is too bad because he is one of the best-known contributors who gives the board its character.  I hope to bring vento's contributions to the world of T&F discussion into more light.  But this problem of counterproductive censorship does not only affect him.  There are others - like jamin, stuckwithmatch, and domitian/TiberiuSS - and we will get to them later...

4/9/20.  Most amusing!  Here on LR we have a curious dude who isn't yet aware of any of this.

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"Hey SpaRtaQQvLUs,....
I gotta say, you lost me with the following
"But he wasn't the greatest. Oh no. The greatest one ran ~1.39, ~3.24 and ~3.41. You know. If you don't, then you have no business posting on LR. "

Who is that 'greatest one?' I mean, no one runner, certainly no American runner, let alone world-record holder from any country, has run those kind of times . . . all of them under the existing world records I presume you intend them to correspond to."

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Well, those are not my data.  They're vento's!  Gotta love it when LR readers ask about this.

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8/19/18.  By popular request: people have been asking me for examples of vento's art on LR, so OK, here are some of his truly epic contributions...there are plenty more if you look for them...

Jim Ryun ovetrained (2010)
Ryun coulda been in low 1.40 shape (2012)
Jim Ryun - The Greatest M-Distance Runner (2012)
Brief Vid of Duesseldorf 67: 11.6/36.5 (incomplete) finish now on YouTube (2015)

What/Who are the "LRBF"?

Yes, what/Who are the "LRBF"?  This page is semi-viral on LR so I know you're reading it with interest, dudes...

A: LRBF = Lets Run Bottom Feeder

Lets Run Bottom Feeder = basement dwelling college male distance runner, thin, nerdy, introverted, lacking in social skills and confidence, anxiously posting on LR about training, diet, college and especially GIRLS!  DATES!  What to dooo??!

It is amusing to imagine these almost-mythical creatures... but when you read the "world famous" LetsRun discussion board for a while you will see that they are not totally mythical. 



OK they are not all incels, but they do believe in the nonsensical and counterproductive Disnified mythology of romance, aided and abetted by the reactionary, conservative, hypocritical board mods and posters who repress the most entertaining discussions and suppress the realities of dating and mating that don't fit their sexist 1950s BeaverCleaver stereotypes.

I am Domitian (aka TiberiuSS, Spartacus/SpArTaQvLvSS, Baron Samedi and numerous others from time to time), the antidote to their repressive and reactionary beliefs.  The board mods attempt to censor me and we play a fun game but for those who want to read what I have to say - and there's a lot of you in spite of the fear of the censors - you can find it here.  More to follow...